how to see the site--was: No 3d for you! (was: Re(2): FLASH: slick 3d cube site)

[batrico]

On 2/18/1999 7:33 AM,Colin Moock of

fritziceinc [dot] com

 said:


>www.i2f.org

>

>it turns out that some can see it, some can't. i doubt there's much we can do

>about that, short of mailing the creators and hoping for the best.


Hi all,


At the request of another user, I checked out why the site is allegedly 

unobtainable for certain viewers, and not for others.


The source code reveals a potential problem with users of both IE4 and 

NN4 for Mac.


If you have IE4 for Mac, and you can't see the popup URL object that 

displays the option, '??Flash', you may have an issue with your 

installation of IE.


Check your System Folder: Extensions Folder: MS Library Folder: for the 

following files:


MS JScript PPC v3.0.1b

MS JScript PPC v4.0.5


These files are in conflict with one another when you have duel versions 

of IE3 and IE4 installed on the same System.


You need the early version to properly execute JavaScripts on IE 3, and 

you must have the newer version to even run IE4, so, as a web designer 

who needs both versions to test pages, you'll have to continually swap 

these two files (with both apps not running) to use each one with 

JavaScripts. I suggest building an AppleScript to swap the files and 

launch the desired browser on command.


 If you have the newer version, and you are running IE4 and *still* can't 

execute the scripts, you should try quitting IE4, physically deleting 

your "cache.waf"  file (not just emptying cache from the prefs button), 

and starting over. If you still can't see it, you should delete all MS 

Libraries and components and reinstall IE4.


Those of you using NN on Mac and can't see the site, try this link:


http://www.i2f.org/flash/flash.htm


If you still can't see it, the only thing I can suggest is that the host 

server is running an active ASP or CGI script that excludes certain 

domains or ports. If this is the case, then you need to login through an 

anonymous domain router, that will mask your originating server address. 

This is still not a sure-fire solution, as any good scripter can even 

overcome anons.


I have not investigated this issue in detail for Wintel, but am able to 

view the files under both IE4 and NN4.


If this all sounds like too big of a hassle to see some Japanese Flash 

site, I have three comments:


1) It is worth it for designers to know what problems can prevent a 

potential audience from viewing a page, so learning how to correct them 

yourselves will inevitably assist you in writing  scripts that are more 

reliable than the one demonstrated here. Further, if you must use such a 

script, you can at least provide a detailed fix for any user who 

complains they can't see your site contents.


2) Chances are high that it is the installation of your browser of choice 

is at fault here, and you may have no idea what else you are missing 

elsewhere.


3) Seeing this site, IMHO, is very much worth whatever it takes to get 

there.  (;


HTH


Frederico


~The problems we have can not be solved by 

                                    the same  

                                         level 

                                            of 

                                            thinking that created them.~

	                                                --Albert Einstein


Think PC?   Think Y2K?   Think not. 


Think Different.   Think Better.   Think Macintosh.



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