RE: FLASH: John Croteau's Book ???

[patrickf]

Now, now, kids... let's take our bickering off-list!  ;)

I mean, can't we all... just.... get along?  *sniff**sniff*



> ** Original Subject: RE: FLASH: John Croteau's Book ???

>

** Original Sender: "Michael J. Weldon" <mjwbix [dot] netcom [dot] com>

> ** Original Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:19:16 -0500 (EST)


> ** Original Message follows... 


>

> Mr. Koch,

> 

> I'll stop calling you Rick as I have before since it's clear to me now that

> your shorts are currently riding kind of high and we are obviously no longer

> on a first name basis.  This despite the fact that you've taken the liberty

> of referring to me by my first name instead of Mr. Weldon...you never really

> granted me the permission to address you by your first name now...have you?

> 

> First, Let me humbly apologize to you that it clearly escaped my attention

> that your response to my "on-list" posting was directly to me "off-list".

> No excuse but I get, like many here, 100's and 100's of pieces of email a

> day and frankly, S**T happens.

> 

> Second, since you've openly expressed a sensitivity about the material I

> included from you in my posting, I strongly advise you not to email me

> directly in the future regarding anything I public ally post to the list.  I

> say this since, although not very probable, it's not beyond the realm of

> possibility that I could do the very same thing again.  On the other hand,

> if and when I ever email you directly about anything, please feel free to

> use such email in any fashion you want...unless I expressly ask you not to.

> And, by the way, I would never stoop to guess that the reason you may be

> sensitive about all of this is quite simply that you never received any such

> phone call from Mr. Croteau in the first place.  No, I would never stoop to

> that!

> 

> Third, your patronizing guesses about what Mr. Croteau's delivery problem's

> might be put me in mind of another old Montana saying which is "....That dog

> don't hunt"!  I know what my options are.  I've always known what my options

> are!  It's just that when I tell someone I'm going to do something...then I

> do it.  If God forbid, unforeseen circumstances arise and I find I can't

> ultimately "do it", then I immediately let whoever I told I could...I can't.

> More importantly....I also clearly explain to them why I can't!

> 

> Mr. Croteau personally steered us to the site in question in order to

> purchase his book.  I followed his recommendation out of nothing more than

> my respect for the unselfish assistance he has provided historically to this

> list.  Once ordered and when the book failed to appear in a timely fashion,

> I believed Mr. Croteau when he told me, more than once now, that he was

> going to do what he said he was going to do.  He even posted such public

> ally to the list...but only after you and I and others ultimately complained

> about non-receipt.  But, we've now burnt far too much daylight on those

> promises.  My time is just as valuable as anyone else's and Mr. Croteau has

> wasted a lot of my time by telling me to hold on and he'll deliver on his

> promise.  Furthermore, you have absolutely no knowledge of what charges

> related to this book have or have not; will or will not; appear on my

> personal credit card.

> 

> On a final note, I find it more than revealing that instead of first

> addressing your concerns to me in private and requesting a response to them

> from me in private...you rushed into the glare of the headlights with this!

> Did I say before that I wouldn't stoop....Nah....the hell I won't!  Tit for

> Tat.

> 

> 

> 

> Over & Out

> 

>

-----Original Message-----From: ownerchinwag [dot] com [ownerchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:ownerchinwag [dot] com]On

Behalf Of Rick Koch

> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 2:59 PM

>

To: flasherchinwag [dot] com

> Subject: Re: FLASH: John Croteau's Book ???

> 

> 

> Michael,

> 

> First, I responded to you off list to keep comments private.  I don't

> appreciate your re-posting my message to the entire list.

> 

> Second, I have no relationship with John Croteau whatsoever.  I wish I

> did, then perhaps I'd have a leg up in becoming fluent in actionscript.

> 

> Third,  I suspect John is very busy, much like the rest of us, and the

> books will come in time. I am willing to wait for it.  If you are not,

> then I recommend purchasing it elsewhere. Your credit card is not being

> charged for the book so no loss there.

> 

> Finally, I am as disappointed as you all are about not receiving it in a

> timely manner.  If there were anything I could do about it, I would. I'm

> guessing John is quite embarrassed about this snafu which is probably

> beyond his control as well. Perhaps that's partly why he's been absent

> from the list.

> 

> I'm looking forward to the Flash 4 Bible, however. Now, if I could just

> get Amazon off the dime on that one!!

> 

> Rick K.

> 

> 

> "Michael J. Weldon" wrote:

> >

> > Rick, Carla, Douglas, and 2Nerotik,

> >

> > Thanks for each of your prompt replies regarding my inquiry on the John

> > Croteau "Missing-In-Action" book.  It appears that something more then has

> > gone horribly awry inasmuch as none of us have received it yet.  I suspect

> > there are others, besides us, that haven't received it as well.

> >

> > Rick, it appears you have a much closer relationship to Mr. Croteau than

> the

> > rest of us, given your mentioned recent telephone exchange with him. Would

> 

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