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Subject: RE: FLASH: John Croteau's Book ???
From: patrickf
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 04:06:46 GMT

Now, now, kids... let's take our bickering off-list! ;)
I mean, can't we all... just.... get along? *sniff**sniff*


> ** Original Subject: RE: FLASH: John Croteau's Book ???
> ** Original Sender: "Michael J. Weldon" <mjwbatix [dot] netcom [dot] com>
> ** Original Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:19:16 -0500 (EST)

> ** Original Message follows...

>
> Mr. Koch,
>
> I'll stop calling you Rick as I have before since it's clear to me now that
> your shorts are currently riding kind of high and we are obviously no longer
> on a first name basis. This despite the fact that you've taken the liberty
> of referring to me by my first name instead of Mr. Weldon...you never really
> granted me the permission to address you by your first name now...have you?
>
> First, Let me humbly apologize to you that it clearly escaped my attention
> that your response to my "on-list" posting was directly to me "off-list".
> No excuse but I get, like many here, 100's and 100's of pieces of email a
> day and frankly, S**T happens.
>
> Second, since you've openly expressed a sensitivity about the material I
> included from you in my posting, I strongly advise you not to email me
> directly in the future regarding anything I public ally post to the list. I
> say this since, although not very probable, it's not beyond the realm of
> possibility that I could do the very same thing again. On the other hand,
> if and when I ever email you directly about anything, please feel free to
> use such email in any fashion you want...unless I expressly ask you not to.
> And, by the way, I would never stoop to guess that the reason you may be
> sensitive about all of this is quite simply that you never received any such
> phone call from Mr. Croteau in the first place. No, I would never stoop to
> that!
>
> Third, your patronizing guesses about what Mr. Croteau's delivery problem's
> might be put me in mind of another old Montana saying which is "....That dog
> don't hunt"! I know what my options are. I've always known what my options
> are! It's just that when I tell someone I'm going to do something...then I
> do it. If God forbid, unforeseen circumstances arise and I find I can't
> ultimately "do it", then I immediately let whoever I told I could...I can't.
> More importantly....I also clearly explain to them why I can't!
>
> Mr. Croteau personally steered us to the site in question in order to
> purchase his book. I followed his recommendation out of nothing more than
> my respect for the unselfish assistance he has provided historically to this
> list. Once ordered and when the book failed to appear in a timely fashion,
> I believed Mr. Croteau when he told me, more than once now, that he was
> going to do what he said he was going to do. He even posted such public
> ally to the list...but only after you and I and others ultimately complained
> about non-receipt. But, we've now burnt far too much daylight on those
> promises. My time is just as valuable as anyone else's and Mr. Croteau has
> wasted a lot of my time by telling me to hold on and he'll deliver on his
> promise. Furthermore, you have absolutely no knowledge of what charges
> related to this book have or have not; will or will not; appear on my
> personal credit card.
>
> On a final note, I find it more than revealing that instead of first
> addressing your concerns to me in private and requesting a response to them
> from me in private...you rushed into the glare of the headlights with this!
> Did I say before that I wouldn't stoop....Nah....the hell I won't! Tit for
> Tat.
>
>
>
> Over & Out
>
> -----Original Message-----From: owneratchinwag [dot] com [owneratchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:owneratchinwag [dot] com]On
Behalf Of Rick Koch
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 2:59 PM
> To: flasheratchinwag [dot] com
> Subject: Re: FLASH: John Croteau's Book ???
>
>
> Michael,
>
> First, I responded to you off list to keep comments private. I don't
> appreciate your re-posting my message to the entire list.
>
> Second, I have no relationship with John Croteau whatsoever. I wish I
> did, then perhaps I'd have a leg up in becoming fluent in actionscript.
>
> Third, I suspect John is very busy, much like the rest of us, and the
> books will come in time. I am willing to wait for it. If you are not,
> then I recommend purchasing it elsewhere. Your credit card is not being
> charged for the book so no loss there.
>
> Finally, I am as disappointed as you all are about not receiving it in a
> timely manner. If there were anything I could do about it, I would. I'm
> guessing John is quite embarrassed about this snafu which is probably
> beyond his control as well. Perhaps that's partly why he's been absent
> from the list.
>
> I'm looking forward to the Flash 4 Bible, however. Now, if I could just
> get Amazon off the dime on that one!!
>
> Rick K.
>
>
> "Michael J. Weldon" wrote:
> >
> > Rick, Carla, Douglas, and 2Nerotik,
> >
> > Thanks for each of your prompt replies regarding my inquiry on the John
> > Croteau "Missing-In-Action" book. It appears that something more then has
> > gone horribly awry inasmuch as none of us have received it yet. I suspect
> > there are others, besides us, that haven't received it as well.
> >
> > Rick, it appears you have a much closer relationship to Mr. Croteau than
> the
> > rest of us, given your mentioned recent telephone exchange with him. Would
>
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