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Subject:	FLASH: RE: flasher-digest V1 #895
From:	Chris Jester (Meridian Partners Ltd.)
Date:	Tue, 30 Mar 1999 03:03:31 +0100

May I ask why my question appears on this Flasher-digest yet not in the
email list?

Jester

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flasher-digest Monday, March 29 1999 Volume 01 : Number 895

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In this issue:

FLASH: Another Aftershock Question.
Re: FLASH: Random Twinkling Stars
FLASH: Midi to Wav...or where to find some funky music
Re: FLASH: Another Aftershock Question.
Re: FLASH: Re: Mouse NOT over question
Re: FLASH: Random Twinkling Stars
Re: FLASH: TEXT FIELDS in FLASH
Re: FLASH: Bookmarking areas within FLASH
FLASH: bitmaps quality
Re: FLASH: 3d
RE: FLASH: Another Aftershock Question.
FLASH: Trasparent
Re: FLASH: crashing flash on mac
Re: FLASH: Trasparent
Re: FLASH: random javascript
Re: FLASH: Trasparent
Re: FLASH: Audio cross-platform problem
FLASH: Need opinion
FLASH: Re: FLASH .wav files-not all equal?
FLASH: have you seen the new www.disney.com
Re: FLASH: Audio cross-platform problem
FLASH: Tree Control
FLASH: NetAnimator

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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:42:28 -0500
From: Larry Eisenstein <eisenstein

home [dot] com>
Subject: FLASH: Another Aftershock Question.

Hi all,
Hello,

Thanks Marc for answering my question.
Here is another I could use some help with.

I have set marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" in
my Body.
I have aftershocked my movie as 100% of window with exact fit.

I am still getting a border on the bottom and on the right side.

Any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong.

Thank You very much,
Larry

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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:05:03 -0800
From: Marc Hoffman <marc

dartfrogmedia [dot] com>
Subject: Re: FLASH: Random Twinkling Stars

At 11:06 AM 3/28/99 -0800, you wrote:
>At 08:54 AM 3/28/99 +0530, you wrote:
>>Hi,
>>I have a MC of a twinkling star. how can I place multiple instances of
>>of this MC on my main movie and make it appear that the twinkling is
>>random?
>
>If it must be the same MC, you'll have to insert it in different places on
>the timeline (using a new layer for each instance, since any encountered
>keyframe will reset all MC's that exist in that layer).
>
>Alternately, add a blank keyframe at the start of the MC. Give it the
>action to Go To frame #N. At the end of the MC, place the action Go To and
>Play frame #2. Now make copies of this MC, one for each star.

Actually, you don't need one for each star, of course. My example at
http://www.dartfrogmedia.com/stars uses 10 different clips, which is still
probably overkill.

Marc Hoffman
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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View my Flash3 samples: <http://www.jps.net/dartfrog/sampler>.
Read about Flash: <http://www.jps.net/dartfrog/sampler/flashinf.htm>

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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 22:13:43 -0500
From: "Mary Woods" <mwoods

capital [dot] net>
Subject: FLASH: Midi to Wav...or where to find some funky music

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Hi all,

I'm making a demo for our web site, it will be for a CD but right now =
it's just for a presentation piece for first draft.
I am putting the flash intro and an avi web site walk-through recording =
to music. I found a kind of funky midi file that works pretty well for =
the background music, but of course the midi format doesn't work in =
flash.

I tried using Wavmaker to convert it to wav but it gives me an error =
message about 0.prg. I tried downloading mellosoftron and the other =
utilities from polyhedric.com, but not being a composer I can't figure =
it out.

If anyone can help me with this or suggest some resources for wav music =
(midi-style-no vocals) I would really appreciate it.

Thanks...Mary Woods
mwoods

capital [dot] net

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From: linque <linque

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To: flasher

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Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 1:09 PM
Subject: FLASH: FLASH .wav files-not all equal?
=20
=20
I subscribed to a sound effects site, downloaded several .wav files =
and then proceeded attempt to load several into Flash. Some loaded, =
some did not..telling me the format was not recognized. On the site, =
i'm informed that the sound files include the following variants of =
.wav.. PCM, Microsoft ADPCM, ACM, and MPEG-3. Does anyone know (1) =
How to determine which format each file is and (2) whic format it is =
that "works" or imports and which does not??
lin (linque)

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'm making a demo for our web site, it will be for a =
CD but=20
right now it's just for a presentation piece for first =
draft.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I am putting the flash intro and an avi web site =
walk-through=20
recording to music. I found a kind of funky midi file that works pretty =
well for=20
the background music, but of course the midi format doesn't work in=20
flash.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I tried using Wavmaker to convert it to wav but it =
gives me an=20
error message about 0.prg. I tried downloading mellosoftron and the =
other=20
utilities from polyhedric.com, but not being a composer I can't figure =
it=20
out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>If anyone can help me with this or suggest some =
resources for=20
wav <U>music </U>(midi-style-no vocals) I would really appreciate=20
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks...Mary =
Woods<BR>mwoods

capital [dot] net</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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shocker [dot] com (mailto:flasher

shocker [dot] com)">flasher

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shocker [dot] com</A>><BR><B>Dat=
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.wav=20
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Flash.  Some=20
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recognized.  On the=20
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variants of=20
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MPEG-3.      Does anyone know (1) How to =
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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 22:13:51 -0500
From: "linque" <linque

ameritech [dot] net>
Subject: Re: FLASH: Another Aftershock Question.

Are you sure that the "border" is not the settings of your monitor? on
mine...i need to occasionally adjust my monitor for horizontal/vertical
overall size and position or i have a permanent border...
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From: Larry Eisenstein <eisenstein

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To: Flasher@Shocker. Com (E-mail) <flasher

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Sent: Sunday, March 28, 1999 6:42 PM
Subject: FLASH: Another Aftershock Question.

> Hi all,
> Hello,
>
> Thanks Marc for answering my question.
> Here is another I could use some help with.
>
> I have set marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0"
in my Body.
> I have aftershocked my movie as 100% of window with exact fit.
>
> I am still getting a border on the bottom and on the right side.
>
> Any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong.
>
> Thank You very much,
> Larry
>
>
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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:18:25 -0700
From: "Al Rosetti" <alrose

websitepartners [dot] com>
Subject: Re: FLASH: Re: Mouse NOT over question

Nigel and Mark,

Thanks a ton,
I'll give that a shot!!!

Sincerely,

Al Rosetti
http://www.websitepartners.com

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 04:11:07 -0800
From: David Gary <dgarystudios

mpinet [dot] net>
Subject: Re: FLASH: Random Twinkling Stars

Marc Hoffman wrote:

> Hi, Wayne.
>
> I set the rate to 40fps to push the limit on most
> machines.

Hiya Marc,

I think max framerate for Flash animations is 30 fps reguardless of what you
can
set it at.
Could someone correct me on this?

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:21:46 +0000
From: Joseph Troha <joe

creativefactory [dot] com [dot] au>
Subject: Re: FLASH: TEXT FIELDS in FLASH

Hello Flashers,

Is there anyway to implement text fields in flash for e-forms etc.
without having to use Director Shockwave???
Is this something that can be developed with the integration of
Generator??
Any comments will be greatly appreciated.

Thank You.

regards,

JT

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:23:52 +0000
From: Joseph Troha <joe

creativefactory [dot] com [dot] au>
Subject: Re: FLASH: Bookmarking areas within FLASH

Hi,

Does anyone know of a way to implement browser bookmarking within areas
of a SWF's without having to access another URL???
Any comments appreciated.

Thank You.

regards,

JT

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:34:34 +0200
From: vincent leleux <vincent

leleux [dot] com>
Subject: FLASH: bitmaps quality

Hi,
When i import a bitmap(a JPG) in my flash file and then export the flash
movie the bitmap is not as good as before ; it affects my JPG.
I tried to change the jpg quality (untill 100) in the export dialog but it
doesn't change anything.
Thanks for your help
Vincent

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:27:04 -0300
From: Rafael Faria <listas

topnet [dot] com [dot] br>
Subject: Re: FLASH: 3d

>Could you possibly mean this link:
>
>http://www.gourmandizer.com/flash/3d/
>
>the downloadable fla has been included on this page.
>
>MB
>

Thanks! :)

____________________________________________________________
TopNet Servi�os e Sistemas LTDA. - http://www.topnet.com.br/
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:08:44 -0500
From: Larry Eisenstein <eisenstein

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Subject: RE: FLASH: Another Aftershock Question.

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Hi Linque,

Are you referring to borders inside the browser. That's what I am =
getting in my Netscape 4.5 browser when I look at my aftershocked file. =
They are on the bottom and right sides.

Thanks=20
Larry

Linque wrote,

Are you sure that the "border" is not the settings of your monitor? on
mine...i need to occasionally adjust my monitor for horizontal/vertical
overall size and position or i have a permanent border...
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From: Larry Eisenstein <eisenstein

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To: Flasher@Shocker. Com (E-mail) <flasher

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Sent: Sunday, March 28, 1999 6:42 PM
Subject: FLASH: Another Aftershock Question.

> Hi all,
> Hello,
>
> Thanks Marc for answering my question.
> Here is another I could use some help with.
>
> I have set marginheight=3D"0" marginwidth=3D"0" topmargin=3D"0" =
leftmargin=3D"0"
in my Body.
> I have aftershocked my movie as 100% of window with exact fit.
>
> I am still getting a border on the bottom and on the right side.
>
> Any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong.
>
> Thank You very much,
> Larry
>
>
> =
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:37:09 -0300
From: Rafael Faria <listas

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Subject: FLASH: Trasparent

Have any way to put the movie tranparent on the netscape?

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 08:01:42 +0000
From: naoki mitsuse <naoki

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Subject: Re: FLASH: crashing flash on mac

Thanks for the replies and bummed to know about this funky bug.

After doing everything I know to my mac (norton, disintectant, zap pram,
rebuild desketop, reinstall flash etc etc) I at least got it to the
point where the crashes doesnt corrupt the working file anymore. The
crashes are still a real headache and find myself holding my breath when
I edit actions.

naoki

"Russell E. Unger" wrote:
>
> I had something very similar to this occur to me.
>
> The only resolution to this was for me to move the files on my network and
> to continue on the PC side of things, I'm sad to say.

Wayne Townsend wrote:
>
> All severe crashes on Macs that you describe happen when editing actions.
>
> I've verified this with others. And on multiple CPUs. It ain't just me.
>
> Now I always save frequently when editing actions. But this costs me time
> & money - I won't mention frustration.
>
> It's a bug. Let's hope it gets fixed in the next version, as well as the
> extreamly annoying (cross-platform) bug with selection of lines. -- If
you
> want some real fun, try to make a line grid.
>
> Aside from these two, flash is nearly faultless.

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:56:34 +0000
From: Nigel Randsley-Pena <nigel

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Subject: Re: FLASH: Trasparent

Not yet, no.

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:10:51 +0530
From: "SANIsoft" <tarique

nagpur [dot] dot [dot] net [dot] in>
Subject: Re: FLASH: random javascript

Hello John,
>2) Or you can create a pseudo random generator in Flash using a Movie
>Clip.
>If you use a button to stop the main timeline while your randomizer MC
>continues your pseudo-random generator may become truly random.

Can you please elaborate on this please

Thanks in advance
Tarique
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:23:36 -0800
From: Marc Hoffman <marc

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Subject: Re: FLASH: Trasparent

At 12:37 PM 3/29/99 -0300, you wrote:
>Have any way to put the movie tranparent on the netscape?
>
>

Fake it by matching movie background to HTML background color. This works
well in 8- and 24-bit color. In 16-bit you won't get an exact match in
every case. Black and white always match up well, however.

This will make your content appear to float on the page, however it will
not allow underlying graphics (including a background tile) to show through.

Marc Hoffman
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:38:30 -0800
From: dhollinden

jetcitystudios [dot] com (Dave Hollinden)
Subject: Re: FLASH: Audio cross-platform problem

At 12:03 AM 3/26/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Thanks Russell and Marc. We use SoundEdit16 (Mac) to normalize sound
>before we import it into Flash, and we always import at 44kHz, 16-bit and
>use Flash to compress. Interesting that compressing in Flash is Marc's
>suggestion but precompressing BEFORE Flash is Russell's. Opinions from any
>other Flashers?
>
>Thanks again,
>
>Hal
>

You cannot compress before importing into Flash. Flash does not import
compressed files. It imports uncompressed wav's on a PC and uncompressed
aiff's on a Mac. Anyone have a different experience?

Dave
Dave Hollinden
Audio Engineer
Jet City Studios, Seattle
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:03:03 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Campos?= <joaocampos

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Subject: FLASH: Need opinion

Hi flasher's,

I need a opinion on this page. The content is in portuguese, so, i just
ask a techical opinion.
http://www.pronext.pt/intro.html

thanks.

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:02:25 -0800
From: dhollinden

jetcitystudios [dot] com (Dave Hollinden)
Subject: FLASH: Re: FLASH .wav files-not all equal?

Stick to PCM. PCM means "pulse coded modulation" and is the basic
format for digitized audio. ADPCM is "adaptive differential PCM" and is
a format for compressing PCM. MPEG-3 is another method for compressing
PCM. And Flash doesn't contain any algorithms for uncompressing
compressed audio, so always use straight PCM.

Also, I get the feeling from some recent letters on the list that there
is some confusion between reducing audio sampling rates and compression.=20
Audio compression takes place when you apply a compression algorithm to a
file, such as ADPCM, MPEG-3, Shockwave audio, etc. The file is made
smaller, and then needs to be processed by a decompression algorithm to
be played. On the other hand, you can reduce file size by reducing the
sampling rate and bit depth of the audio file (making it 22 or 11kHZ
rather than 44kHz, or 8 bit rather than 16 bit). This is not
compression, and thus doesn't need a decompressor for playback. This is
decreasing the amount of information, and thus the quality, by reducing
the amount of data points and the number of bits is each data point. The
parallel to this in the graphics world is reducing the number of dots or
pixels per inch in an image, and reducing the number of bits used to
represent each point in the image. Making a 24 bit bitmap into an 8 bit
file makes it smaller by reducing it's overall resolution, but making it
a JPEG makes it smaller by compressing it. See what I mean?

DAve

At 12:54 PM 3/28/99 -0500, you wrote:=20

>>>>

<excerpt><smaller>I subscribed to a sound effects site, downloaded
several .wav files and then proceeded attempt to load several into Flash.
Some loaded, some did not..telling me the format was not recognized. On
the site, i'm informed that the sound files include the following
variants of .wav.. PCM, Microsoft ADPCM, ACM, and MPEG-3. Does
anyone know (1) How to determine which format each file is and (2) whic
format it is that "works" or imports and which does not??

lin (linque)

</smaller>

</excerpt><<<<<<<<

Dave Hollinden

Audio Engineer

Jet City Studios, Seattle

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:34:26 -0500
From: David Mendels <dmendels

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Subject: FLASH: have you seen the new www.disney.com

Hi all,

thought you might be interested in checking out the new
disney.com....completely redesigned in Flash. Perhaps the highest profile
use of Flash to date (according to the Industry Standard, they have over 1M
unique visitors per day). It is very nicey done, and if Disney feels
comfortable using Flash as a core technology for their main consumer site,
it should become easier and eaiser to convince companies/publishers to use
it.

Regards,

David
Macromedia

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:17:50 -0600
From: "Russell E. Unger" <runger

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Subject: Re: FLASH: Audio cross-platform problem

You're completely correct, based upon what I've seen with my sound
importing...but...

Well, although it's not technically "compressing" a file, I do "reduce" the
file
to 8bit sound and mono. I mean, it's the internet, you really don't need
surround sound on it; that's only for the gamers, for the most part (not
trying
to offend anyone).

Unless I'm sampling something cool (legally, you've got 7 seconds, I
believe)
and then I'll sacrifice sound file size a bit for stereo.

My .02.

Russ

Dave Hollinden wrote:

> At 12:03 AM 3/26/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >Thanks Russell and Marc. We use SoundEdit16 (Mac) to normalize sound
> >before we import it into Flash, and we always import at 44kHz, 16-bit and
> >use Flash to compress. Interesting that compressing in Flash is Marc's
> >suggestion but precompressing BEFORE Flash is Russell's. Opinions from
any
> >other Flashers?
> >
> >Thanks again,
> >
> >Hal
> >
>
> You cannot compress before importing into Flash. Flash does not import
> compressed files. It imports uncompressed wav's on a PC and uncompressed
> aiff's on a Mac. Anyone have a different experience?
>
> Dave
> Dave Hollinden
> Audio Engineer
> Jet City Studios, Seattle
> dhollindenjetcitystudios [dot] com (mailto:dhollindenjetcitystudios [dot] com)
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:31:34 -0800
From: "Chris Jester (Meridian Partners Ltd.)" <a-chrisj

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Subject: FLASH: Tree Control

> Does anyone have any .FLA showing how to create a tree type control? I am
> interested in setting one up.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Jester

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:13:03 -0600 (CST)
From: Wayne Townsend <waynet

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Subject: FLASH: NetAnimator

Hi Guys,

Here's another contender. NetAnimator.

It produces java-based webpage animations.

There's a demo page at:

http://www.proactive-intl.com/vendor/medialinks/animations/

So what do you think?

BTW, there's a contest on about producing NA animations, with prizes.

Oh, Mac guys, forget it, NA's editor is a Wdows only tool for now. How do
you like them apples? :)

On the plus side: this could be a card up your sleeve when you have a
client who's skiddish about P-I's.

So pls, go look at this and forward your comments to me so that I can
present them to the company.

While you're at it, I want to remind you that this company should not be
judged on this product alone, which they did not create - only represent in
the US. These are the "SuperCard guys". They created Flamethrower, which
is the best server CGI creating tool ever designed. The *only* one that
creative types can make use of. Check it out. With Flame, you don't have
to know jack about how servers work - you just write server apps in a plain
english-based syntax - no geekspeak at all. If you need to do data bases
and intelligent web pages, FlameThrower is the best choice in the world -
by faaar. Want to be a server app guru? Then get FlameThrower.

Lemme know what you think of NetAnimator.

/wayne

Wayne Townsend
WebStaffing.Net
Princeton, TX.
http://webstaffing.net
waynet

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