Re: FLASH: Alcatraz site

[Russell E. Unger]

Okay, this is going to keep me from being in the shower right now, but

you've got a few finer points to learn here.


>RUSS:

>------------

>ERM RUSS ... IT IS A. L. C. A. Z. A. R     NOT  A. L. C. A. T. R. A. Z



>>From one flash designer to another...

>

>Personally I think you should learn somming about Flash3 first then insult

a

>site that only has 600k bandwidth and do all the stuff that site does...



You asked for a site review.  You got a site review.  Good and bad, we get

them/give them all the time.  If you cannot handle the negatives with the

positives, don't go asking for them and insulting those of us who bother to

spend the time checking out your work.


If you want to knock my spelling, then, erm, it's SOMETHING not somming, and

I think that there may be a few to argue my knowledge of Flash3.


The 600k bandwidth issue:  In HTML, a NON-STREAMING media, the high-end that

I work with is 35k per page.  If you're going to talk to someone as if they

know nothing, then you really should do more homework.  Other than that fact

that there are some die-hard Flashers here, you need to understand that

there are some die-hard designers here, as well.  What we'll tell you is

that 600k smix-hundred-k; it's too long to wait for an average end user that

is still at approximately 28k and who's interest span is roughly 10 seconds

per page.


You do the math.


>Secondly you should also bear in mind that FLASH4 is out one of these days

>and that Alcazar ver4 is on the way that will EVEN be smaller and load even

>faster doing EXACTLY the same and more...



I don't think that *I* need to bear that in mind in the least; we've all

known it was/is coming.  Flash 5 is coming one of these days, too, but

that's not going to make me wait to see how much quicker your site loads.

This is rapidly going from me offering you professional criticism to you

creating a pissing contest.


>You comment sux buddio and ... that is NOT positive critisizm if I ever saw

>it thanx for the kind wording moron.



Then *do NOT* ask for criticism on this list.  Period.  As a site, it sucks.

As a presentation on a CD, it's quite nice.  I'm not changing my stance here

because you cannot present yourself in a professional manner.


>BTW - where is you lil site so I can have a lil laugh too ...



I'll happily email you samples of work of done, as well as a copy of the

article I've consulted on for Flash, off-line, if you'd like that.  There's

no need to repost these sites and the work I've done when the people here

have already seen it.


>And I repeat myself again ... the GABO wheel was a challenge to me and grew

>into that ... I am NOT going to re-build the whole thing just to please ppl

>like YOU.



Congratulations; it's not about the fact that you "grew into that".  That's

great; a lot of learning comes from repurposing other work.  Repurposing.

No one asked you to rebuild your site.  Perhaps rebuild your negative

attitude; we're all here to help and when a new user hops on and throws this

type of a response onto the list, it does nothing but push the collective

"us" further away from helping others, and that's not the way it should

work, at all.


>Here is a lil challenge RUSS - "TRY to Copy that site ROFL!"



I *try* not to copy anyone else's work...at least not with permission for

the repurpose, first.


Best of luck to you in your professional endeavors.


Russ


>Kind Regards

>DJT (Pieter Olwage)

>http://www.alcazar.co.za

>

>

>-----Original Message-----

>

From: Russell E. Unger [rungerzaxcoms [dot] com (mailto:rungerzaxcoms [dot] com)]

>Sent: 25 May 1999 06:37

>

To: flashershocker [dot] com

>Subject: FLASH: Alcatraz site

>

>

>I must admit to liking this site...as a presentaiton...but, a 650k web

>site?  Plus additional loading from within?  I find it hard to believe

>that the end user was thought of in the creation of this site; more so

>that the ego of a decent Flasher, instead.

>

>It has some great stuff to it, but I'm failing to see why so much

>bandwidth was used, and I am curious to know why Gabo/Revolver stuff was

>repurposed...I mean, it's okay to do that sort of thing, but I'd be

>hesitant to showing it to other Flashers, if I did that.

>

>I think the whole thing would go better on the CD that the club

>offers...perhaps as the "enhanced" part of it all.  I mean it; it's a

>nice piece and there's some nice and cool stuff inside of it, but as a

>web site...well, it sucks.

>

>Of course, as usual, I could be extremely wrong here.

>

>Russ

>

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