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Subject: RE: FLASH: FLASH 99% BAD
From: Janel Clement
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:14:34 GMT

Based on the info in this Nielsen page,
(http://www.useit.com/about/nographics.html)
the new T-shirt design should be

fuck -> jakob nielsen

rather than
fuck: jakob nielsen

because "The arrows seem to be slightly easier
to understand as an indication of moving deeper
and deeper..." we wouldn't want anyone to be
confused and think that the colons indicate
alternative choices on the same level. ;)

janel
(not a jakob-basher, just another non-conforming
artist-type with >3k pages. sorry jake.)

There must be a balance between creativity and usability.
(my own dos pesos)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owneratchinwag [dot] com [owneratchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:owneratchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf Of Jason
> Cartwright
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 12:14 PM
> To: 'flasheratchinwag [dot] com'
> Subject: RE: FLASH: FLASH 99% BAD
>
>
> Checkout this guys essay on how he bit the bullet by putting an
> arrow on his
> pages - what a loser
> http://www.useit.com/about/nographics.html
>
> Jason
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dale Lawrence [thatm-nus [dot] com (mailto:thatm-nus [dot] com)]
> > Sent: 30 October 2000 16:49
> > To: flasheratchinwag [dot] com
> > Subject: RE: FLASH: FLASH 99% BAD
> >
> >
> >
> > It's guys like Nielsen that said the Television
> > was just a passing fad. All of his opinions are
> > short sighted, and he only really speaks to
> > corporate giants. To him, art, inspiration, and
> > emotion are unnecessary 'baggage'. (read: bandwidth)
> >
> > The biggest argument I've ever seen in my workplace
> > was between the geeks (our affectionate term for
> > programmers) and the design staff. The geeks kept
> > quoting Nielsen as the basis of all their arguments.
> > They had a few good points, but Nielsen is just way
> > beyond. I mean come on. There is more to the web
> > than text only sites with only blue links that turn
> > purple when you click on them...
> >
> > Dale
> >
> > At 11:26 AM 10/30/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Pardon my ignorance... But who is Jacob Nielsen? Just a
> > web-reviewer?
> > >It appears he is not very well liked...
> > >
> > >-Brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Shawn Mitchell [smitchellatwebdesigngroup [dot] com (mailto:smitchellatwebdesigngroup [dot] com)]
> > >Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 10:46 AM
> > >To: flasheratchinwag [dot] com
> > >Subject: RE: FLASH: FLASH 99% BAD
> > >
> > >
> > >jacob shirts
> > >
> > >http://www.extralucky.com/
> > >
> > >i don't know how many are left, and it took forever to get
> > mine, so once you
> > >order keep reminding them
> > >
> > >S
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: owneratchinwag [dot] com [owneratchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:owneratchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf Of David
> > >Wallach
> > >Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:28 AM
> > >To: flasheratchinwag [dot] com
> > >Subject: Re: FLASH: FLASH 99% BAD
> > >
> > >
> > >Sat at his table for lunch last year... I left without eating.
> > >
> > >A few weeks ago I saw a site that had 'FUCK JACOB NIELSEN'
> > t-shirts for
> > >sale, does anybody know the url? I am ready to invest...
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >
> > >David
> > >
> > >> Personally, I can't stand this guy views...
> > >>
> > >> but I thought everyone might get a charge from a
> > >> little blood-boiling e-mail to get ya started this
> > >> Monday morning...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> FLASH 99% BAD
> > >> Jakob Nielsen's Alertbox for October 29 is now online at:
> > >> http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20001029.html
> > >>
> > >> Although multimedia has its role on the Web, current Flash
> > >> technology tends to discourage usability for three reasons:
> > >> it makes bad design more likely, it breaks with the Web's
> > >> fundamental interaction style, and it consumes resources that
> > >> would be better spent enhancing a site's core value.
> > >>
> > >
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