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Subject: RE: FLASH: flash load movie issues!!56k modem BANNED!
From: paul wehner
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 01:15:13 GMT

Quit. Your IT department is staffed with morons.

Paul Wehner
Network Analyst
Mosler Inc.
wehnerpatmoslerinc [dot] com


-----Original Message-----
From: owneratchinwag [dot] com [owneratchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:owneratchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf Of Brack,
Jeremy
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 9:59 AM
To: 'flasheratchinwag [dot] com'
Subject: RE: FLASH: flash load movie issues!!56k modem BANNED!


Unfortunately, I was not exagerating.. my IT department knows very little
about streaming technologies and Flash, so therefore they think that a T-1
line is all I need to test websites on. The bandwidth profiler is great
when your doing basic testing, and Flash movies without imported movie
clips.. But when you start testing the bandwidth profiler on Flash sites
with a lot of scripting, imported movie clips, sound, music, scenes, and
complex animations.. then the results of the profiler are no longer
reliable. The Bandwidth profiler lists all imported movie clips as less
than 1 byte of data, which is obviously incorrect. You also have to realize
that a lot of these websites will also contain plain HTML, javascript, jpgs,
gifs, and other non-flash content that also need to be taken into account
when your testing the download process.. Will a browser not load anything
until it compiles a javascript command? Will a web page be barren of all
images until a flash movie is completed its entire animation? These are
things that the profiler cant do. On top of all of that, the internet is a
congested place, and seeing how a 56k modem reacts to varying conditions as
it downloads your website is the best and only way to truely know how your
website will look to an ordinary visitor. A 56k modem software similator is
a step in the right direction, but there is no substitute for a real 56k
modem.

To make matters worse.. the clients look at our photoshop generated jpg
mock-ups and assume that they are completely functional websites... so we
now end up with huge Flash websites that incorporate tons of bitmaps where
we originally wanted vector based art. and with no 56k modem to test these
huge websites, its getting way out of hand.

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Kerman [flash5atteleport [dot] com (mailto:flash5atteleport [dot] com)]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:24 AM
To: flasheratchinwag [dot] com
Subject: RE: FLASH: flash load movie issues!!56k modem BANNED!


I suspect that the original post is slightly exagerrated--either that or the
IT people really are stupid.

You are familiar with Flash's "Bandwidth Profiler" aren't you? Just
asking--I know it doesn't do everything, but it's a great design and does
work for many things.

Phillip

>
> If your IT people sincerely believe this then they are stupid.
> They may not listen to web designers but they will be all ears when
> your clients scream and withhold payment for a non-functioning website.
> You need to document your forced inability to test your design using
> the common bandwidth of internet user.
>

>
> Hey Scott,
> At my company, they are banning us from getting a 56k modem for site
> testing, and this is making it nearly impossible to guess if any of our
> sites will actually work in the outside world. I was wondering if your
> company allows you the use of a 56k modem for testing the load movie
> commands. We just started making heavy use of Load Movie
> commands here, and
> of course every Flash movie works perfectly on our internal 100Mb
> LAN. But
> when I go home, and I take a glance at almost any of our latest websites..
> all hell breaks lose..
> If the loaded movie isnt timed correctly or doesnt have the scripts loaded
> at the correct time, then massive sections of the website are not
> viewable.
> After reading your e-mail and learning that different browsers load movies
> differently.. I can see that the situation is much worse than I could ever
> imagine..
>
> I am curious if any Web Designers out there are also being banned
> from using
> 56k modems for testing websites?
> If you are being banned from using 56k modems, did they give you a reason
> why?
>
> Our IT department thinks that a 56k modem is useless, and that if it runs
> perfectly on our LAN, then it will work fine everywhere. I only wish they
> would listen to the web designers for once.


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