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Subject: Re: FLASH: Selfish (Sidenote)
From: Cheri Harder
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:56:57 GMT

Wow, Daniel. I've been on this list for a good many months (a year, maybe?)
and I don't think I miss many posts...but I can remember only ONE request of
this sort...just the other day somebody said they had time & wanted a
freebie project to learn by. I don't think I have every seen another
request for any kind of mentor or internship. And that one, I believe, was
met with a "challenge" of sorts, that is a suggested project for whomever it

I, for one, not to be confused with an "advanced flasher," don't even have
any work for myself yet, much less any work to give someone else. As for a
requirement for a particular job posted to the list or anywhere else, I
don't think it is inappropriate to require the applicant be experienced.
Hell, they can require that the applicant be a graduate of Harvard if they
want, it's their job posting and their client. I know, it's the age-old
question of "how do I get experience if the jobs all require experience" -
but I don't think that makes the "advanced flasher" OR the poster of a
particular position "selfish"

My 2 cents
~~~~Cheri Harder~~~~~
charderatawsolution [dot] com
Advantage Web Solution
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Guerrier" <dan_guerrieratyahoo [dot] com>
To: <flasheratchinwag [dot] com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 12:47 PM
Subject: FLASH: Selfish (Sidenote)

> At the risk of alienating myself right of the list, I
> have something to get off of my chest. I've noticed
> that many (not all) of the more advanced flashers on
> the list are extremely selfish. How you ask?
> I've seen many newbie to intermediate flashers post
> messages that ask for some sort of internship or
> mentoring that would give many flashers what they
> need, real world experience. Yeah we read the books,
> and visit the tutorial websites, but lets face it.
> 99.9% of the books don't go beyond the intermediate
> stage, and for some, learning by looking at complex
> fla's with little documentation can be a daunting
> task.
> However each time a request for experience in a
> live
> production environment is requested. It either falls
> on deaf ears or is answered with a condescending reply
> that comes short of saying "go to hell." A recent
> posting to the list for a job said, and I quote "If
> you're a newbie, or someone who read the books and
> worked with Flash at home and are looking for
> experience, don't call." Where do we go after the
> books and home study if nobody is willing to give a
> person a chance to move up in the flash world? I'm
> not
> saying that you should grab any knucklehead off of the
> street and put him/her on a high profile account; not
> at all. Give him/her small personal assignment that
> illustrates an aspect of flash that may that is not
> covered in books, you know, show him/her the ropes.
> My only question is why? Why are you so selfish?
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  FLASH: Selfish (Sidenote), Daniel Guerrier

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