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Subject: Re: ISP needs Flash site, chance for exposure
From: Wayne Townsend
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:00:28 +0100

Frm: David to Marjorie:
>With all due respect, I would discourage anyone from taking on a project
>like this for absolutely no compensation

Hi David (-DG-),
good to see you posting again!

You make a valid point, and I hate to be contrary,
but exposure has always been costly and difficult to get.
Especially, when the developer market becomes crowded.
As is happening now.

I have no doubt that a Flash Artist somewhere
is going to take advantage of this.

The *offer is* that someone can trade a few hours
of their time & creativity,
in exchange for publicity.

For some people who are not totally booked,
as you seem to be,
this is a workable arrangement.

The practice is actually very common,
and has led to many artist's personal success,
in many kinds of media, over the years.

For the Flash Artist considering it, I would ask
just how much exposure this ISP has,
and then weigh your time,
and make your decision based on that.

I can assure you, that
if Disney called
and asked you to put something together,
you wouldn't think twice
and would comp the time.

So, let's not write-off this method entirely at first glance.
It has worked before, for both sides.

Thx for listening.



>Hiya Marjorie,

>than exposure. This falls in that typical "were having a contest for the
>best art and whoever wins gets his work on our site"
>catagory. This practice degrades our standard and hard work. I see it more
>and more. Companies are seeing an oportunity
>to get work done for free and this simply hurts all of us trying to make our
>livelyhood in this profession.
>Ask that ISP if their service is for free.
>Its actually a slap in the face to all of us. I dont sacrifice hours, days,
>months learning "cutting edge" technology
>to spend my time promoting a company's brand for free. I discourage anyone
>of us to either.
>Yeah, ask Gabo if he would do it for you for free. Anyone else that would
>spend that much time on a site
>and be that in-tune with Flash3 technology wouldnt either, not unless he was
>a complete moron.
>The Artist Guild discourages against these practices in print and
>publication unless its for a non-profit
>organizations and so should we as a Flash designer comunity.
>Is you want free server space goto www.business.com or geocities. Its free
>all day.
>If you are innovative, have great design skill and know Flash3 in your
>sleep. Believe me you will get
>Again I would discourage anyone from taking on this type of project or
>"freebie" work unless
>its for a charity or non-profit organization.

Wayne Townsend
WebStaffing.Net, Dallas, TX. USA
waynetatTopher [dot] Net (mailto:waynetatTopher [dot] Net)
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