RE: FLASH: SVG?

[Damien Morton]

Interestingly, many of the SVG people see that same usage for SVG, i.e. youd

have an SVG browser that had HTML capabilities, rather than an HTML browser

with SVG capabilities.


Have you had a look at the spec? It seem to me to be a good design, and one

which will mesh well with the current XML/HTML infrastructure. The problem

is that SVG is whole lot more complex that HTML 4.0, and getting one viewer

to behave the same way as another is going to be an interesting challenge in

standards politics. 


The way I see it, assuming the browser makers buy into it, three years from

now SVG will probably be as pervasive as Flash is today, and the tools for

creating SVG will be as good or better than the Flash 5 authoring tool is.

In fact, once SVG is out there, I can imagine Macromedia falling in to

support it. There are already some rudimentary swf->svg converters out

there, and the actual differences are quite manageable.


The real problem is this: Flash has some appeal because of its proprietary

nature. You know exactly what you are going to get on any given platform.

Flash is unitary. SVG will never be that. Unless everybody adopts the Adobe

player there will no doubt be standards wars etc etc and ,like HTML,

designers will have to deal with multiple platforms and players behaving in

all kinds of ways. Everybody knows that thats no fun at all, and a complete

waste of time and money.


I wish the SVG people well. An open standard for vector graphics and

animation is a good thing. I hope it works out.


> -----Original Message-----

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From: Arcanus [listsransomgroup [dot] com (mailto:listsransomgroup [dot] com)]

> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:58 PM

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To: flasherchinwag [dot] com

> Subject: Re: FLASH: SVG?

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> 

> John Dowdell wrote:

> 

> >I'd be particularly interested in the project and what 

> you're trying to

> >do... folks here in the shop are monitoring this file format and how

> >designers may try to use it to solve problems. If there's 

> some task that

> >you see this addressing, it would be great to learn more, thanks!

> 

> John, what do you see for SVG? I can't see it. I think a 

> Flash browser 

> that didn't know HTML from Uncle Milty would be more useful. 

> I certainly 

> don't see it as an SVG, and I think anybody suggesting it as 

> a solution 

> to anything has got to like buzzwords more than results. Just 

> my opinion, 

> but I'd really grill somebody on their reasons for wanting to look at 

> SVG. Of course, I'm not even a big fan of Flash in the 

> browser--I would 

> as soon have a Flash only browser that operated on 

> Flash-based content 

> (something like Apple's QuickTime TV concept, only with the latest 

> version of Flash being supported). But I'm probably some sort 

> of mutated 

> freak in this respect . . .

> 

> Cheers,

> 

> Kevin Willis

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