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Subject: Re: FLASH: Re: PLEASE KILL THIS THREAD - RE: Yada....yada....yada-I'm outtahere!
From: Péterffy Áron
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:12:11 GMT

There's (was?) an other mailing list, flashpro (along with many others, i think). It's dedicated to be the professianal list of Flashers. It worked well a month our two ago:However, now I only receive a few mails - weekly. It seems to me that most of the people at flashpro moved to this list, but I think they're still in flaspro too.

> and I
> have gotten many good pointers from the 5 or 6 people that have anything
> important to post (you know who they are).

I saw mails from most of the above mentioned masters at flashpro. Maybe if some of us would move to flashpro... that list could be the pro side of flashing - and only that.

BTW, I like Flasher-L, and I also like the OTs (except religious wars). We're humans first, and programmers / artist second - and we like chating and having fun. (Maybe I can say this in the name of the others here). And, for e.g. it's important, that when you ask about multiple monitor systems or programmable button mouses, you ask this as a Flash user from other Flash users. I didn't interested in how good is a prog. button mouse for Quake - I like to use it for Flash.

> After I send this, I'm un-subbing and
> going elsewhere....I just wish I could take a few of you with me...

If some of us will move to flaspro, i will surely post and re-post my strictly Flash subject mails to that list. I'm not an too active member of this list, but some other (more active than me) maybe follow... while still being on Flasher-L too.

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> From: IFX (Alan Wilson) <ifxatjps [dot] net>
> To: flasheratchinwag [dot] com
> Subject: FLASH: Re: PLEASE KILL THIS THREAD - RE: Yada....yada....yada-I'm outtahere!
> Date: 2000. február 19. 20:26
>
> This list is one of the most active I have ever been on with 100 or more
> posts per day.... At times it is almost overwhelming sorting the good from
> the bad. I'm wondering if it would be quite as active if everyone stayed on
> topic? I doubt it. I just pulled the latest messages from the server and
> NONE of them had anything to do with FLASH the program. Don't get me
> wrong... this is (has been) a great list for sharing information... and I
> have gotten many good pointers from the 5 or 6 people that have anything
> important to post (you know who they are). I suppose that is the drawbacks
> of being on an un-moderated list... but I am wondering why the "Professional
> Flash Developers" remain here? I mean there are other lists..? Ones that are
> moderated and don't tolerate the crap we are subjected to on this list? I
> belong to a couple of them... I just wish the 5 or 6 people I mentioned
> above.. would come over to the other lists and leave everyone else here to
> continue their computer, grammar, bandwidth, he-said-she-said wars. When a
> list gets as big as this one is.. eventually it gets off topic and stays
> that way...until everyone leaves or it's shut down (purged like a virus) by
> the owner. In my experience, the red flag when I know it's time to go.. is
> when the hardware wars start and it looks like that has begun.... sad.
>
> I didn't want to add to this thread by posting this message, but I thought
> it might help send a wakeup call to anyone who cares. So don't bother
> complaining that I'm adding to this ugly mess by posting this message...
> besides I won't be here to read it. After I send this, I'm un-subbing and
> going elsewhere....I just wish I could take a few of you with me...
> --
> Alan
>
> PS, I only include the following message as one of the many samples of just
> how ridiculous these threads have become..... look it over and think about
> it. The only way I know to stop this is simply to stop.
>
>
> > From: unique <uniqueatptd [dot] net>
> > Reply-To: flasheratchinwag [dot] com
> > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 13:35:10 -0500
> > To: flasheratchinwag [dot] com
> > Subject: Re: PLEASE KILL THIS THREAD - RE: FLASH: OT: Design
> > computerconfiguration---under $3500.
> >
> >> Sorry, fella, but with a mail signature like yours, you do not have the
> >> RIGHT to complain about wasted bandwidth.
> >
> > Sorry fella, but your declaration of my lack of a right does not take
> > it away from me. Nice try.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Ken Sherwood
> >
> > p.s. My complaints about wasted bandwidth typically revolve around
> > posts that include over 100 lines of crap. You're talking about my
> > sig file of 11 lines. BIG DIFFERENCE.
> >
> > Have a nice weekend.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > "In particular, I was musing about where Flash would be in a couple
> > of years. Right now, it's been delivered to a vast number of
> > clients, either by being packaged with a browser, or via a download.
> > Developers are now developing Flash content that is small yet
> > effective visually. It seems to offer lots of design possibilities.
> > Will it still be here in 3 years? Adobe, who has deeper pockets than
> > Macromedia, has announced a Flash competitor. Will Macromedia
> > survive? Will their vision and focus, so far unsullied [*sic*],
> > survive?"
> >
>
>
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