Re: Which is better? Flash/Real or Director

[Wayne Townsend]

Hi Nigel,


>First off you should test converting your quick time files.

>If they're for CD I guess the frame rate should be around 15fps with a

>data rate of 150 or 300 at least maybe with sound ?


The client has the original video tapes, so I guess we can start from

scratch.  They are basically video clips with background music, and

sometimes a voiceover.


This is a *beautifully* produced CD.  Outstanding! graphics & nice

integration with the video.  It was produced in SuperCard for the mac &

ToolBook for the pc.  They probably would have been better off to produce

it in Director to begin with, but oh well.  The Mac SuperCard version is

flawless.


>Well if this is the case I usually do the following :

>Get the movie files into after effects and start tweaking them basic

>routine is to get the frame rate down to a max of 8fps with a data rate

>below the 150k mark. I also strip off the sound track and get it down to

>11025 mono 8 bit in sound forge. Have to be aware of factors that make

>high and low frequencies drop out.


Got it.  But if the plan is for RealVideo, we can have a higher framerate

than that can't we? 8fps on a video wouldbe rather skippy, wouldn't it?


>After everything is ok sound and image wise i save a new movie file and

>work from that one. BTW don't forget to ajust the movie H/V size and

>ratio if needed.


Ok.


>I usually try real first aiming for real flash because I have a

>feeling it is better than Director but also and most important because

>it's quicker to produce vis a vis director.


I think you're probably right, but still I'd like to see a web Director

Shockwave with imbedded video just to see.  Probably a MM fellow will chime

in with an example.


>I understand your shop is mac so you'll know better than myself how good

>the new streaming quick time format is.


We're both Mac & PC.  (Have to be in this world).

At this point, I can confirm that streaming Quicktime does not seem to be

up to Real's level in the area of streaming.  Although I believe they're

working on it.  It's a tough decision as they are both world class

products.  We love 'em both.


>I haven't played with it yet

>been to busy with the indeo format.

Lord please, not another one!  **brain going into overload**


Where QT will run off of any server, RealVideo has a price.

You need a very hot (proprietary) server to serve them from.  You can buy

your own, but the economical choice seems to be to use one of the ISPs that

are set up to do this.  This involves an expense.  For example, we

contacted AudioNet in Dallas (now Broadcast.com) for their _reseller_ rate.

It is:


Rates:  all rates prorate to nearest quarter hour

Video:         $100.00 per hour, per month (all you can eat)

Real Flash:  $  60.00 per hour, per month (all you can eat)

Audio Only:  $ 40.00 per hour, per month (all you can eat)


(all you can eat) means no matter how many downloads.  So, if you add up

all of the playtime of all the media, it is at the above rate.  It makes

economic sense to use guys like these because they have major hardware, and

very fat pipes.


Thx Nigel for your comments.


Currently, I'm leaning towards Flash for the main project, with a pop-up

RealVideo for all the video clips.  Unless someone can sway me

differently....


/w


Wayne Townsend

WebStaffing.Net

Dallas, Texas

US-  972.713.8705

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