Re: FLASH: Flash making QuickTime--why so little support and development?

[David Sparks]

I would LOVE to see support for Quicktime, and

RealVideo files being embedded into Flash.


Or would that be a Director killer?


David Sparks


--- Bryan Rieger <

bryannmadness [dot] com

> wrote:

> Hello,

> 

> While this email tends to talk about QuickTime it is

> still very much related

> to Flash in regards to Apple's support of the swf

> format within current and

> future releases of QuickTime.

> 

> on 5/2/00 3:16 PM, Phillip Kerman at

>

phillipteleport [dot] com wrote:

> > The first time I saw the Flash layer in QuickTime

> I thought it was pretty

> > cool... but that was a long time ago and to date,

> I've seen no significant

> > documentation, support, or advancement for this

> feature.  For example, you

> > can only output Flash 3 files into QuickTime!

> 

> Currently Apple has only integrated Flash 3

> compatability into QuickTime

> based upon the open .swf format. We should expect to

> see support for version

> 4 files within the next couple of months with the

> next major release of

> QuickTime.

> 

> > In my opinion, other tools will be used instead of

> Flash because there's no

> > action from Macromedia.  On the one hand, if we

> all were using it more maybe

> > MM would develop more support--on the other hand,

> we can't use it until

> > there are more features.

> 

> Macromedia can't really offer much more in the way

> of support until Apple

> provides further support for Flash layers. Again,

> when QuickTime 4 came out

> they were working with version 3 of the swf format.

> What kind of features

> would you like access to in QuickTime from Flash?

> Currently it provides a

> farily elegant means of navigating within a movie.

> 

> Personally, I'd really like to see support for

> editable fields, embedded

> fonts and streaming MP3's introduced into

> Flash/QuickTime layers. Again,

> this should all come with version 4 support.

> 

> > I remember at UCON99 some folks from the QuickTime

> team saying that Flash

> > will (someday) be given access to some of the

> controls within a QuickTime 4

> > file (via action scripting).  Well, I've either

> missed it or something

> > because I've seen nothing.

> 

> Again, what access to what controls within

> QuickTime? The ability to

> enable/disable tracks? Midi, QTVR?

> 

> > Sorry to complain, but to turn this into a

> positive email let me ask this:

> > Has anyone been doing cool stuff with Flash on

> QuickTime?

> 

> You're not really complaining - you should hear

> QuickTime developers

> complain about the lack of Flash 4 features, and

> blatantly obvious bugs

> being released in 'patch updates'.

> 

> I urge people who are using or looking at using

> Flash within QuickTime (or

> using QuickTime on it's own) to make themselves

> known to Apple as the

> developer community really needs to get Apple to

> start listening to what we

> need in order to support their product.

> 

> And yes, there have been alot of people do some

> really cool stuff with Flash

> and QuickTime - primarily using LiveStage Pro from

> TotallyHip. While not

> 'Flash-centric' there is a little information and a

> few examples floating

> around.

> 

> LiveStage Developer Network

> http://www.totallyhip.com/lsdn/

> 

> > Does anyone have stories to share about the use of

> LiveStage from

> > http://www.totallyhip.com ?

> 

> I do - but damned if I can find any of the great

> url's posted over the last

> few months. If anybody has any of the samples from

> Mathew Peterson, or

> Michael Shaff could you please post them - it really

> shows what's possible

> using QuickTime! Apple insists on marketing

> QuickTime as streaming audio and

> video - where Real and Microsoft have a strangle

> hold on the market. It's

> not until you start looking at combining Flash, with

> other media and wired

> sprites that you actually find what a 'gem'

> QuickTime is.

> 

> We currently have a few projects in production, but

> I cannot provide urls

> fearing that I might be hunted down and killed in

> retribution. However, we

> do have one site done for TFO is Canada. you can

> find links to the site

> here.

> 

> http://www.trapeze.com/

> 

> > 

> > Other tools... like "Electrifier"?

> 

> I don't believe the company is still supporting the

> product - I think they

> have changed their focus. Xtreme Shopping or

> something.

> 

> http://www.electrifier.com/

> 

> > 

> > Please show and tell.

> 

> Please do.

> 

> BTW - there has been some talk of late of creating a

> QuickTime Developer's

> site to showcase what QT is now capable - spread the

> word, evangelize. I'll

> post the url or any other information when I hear of

> it.

> 

> Bryan Rieger

> Developer/Collaborator

> 

> Trapeze Media

> http://www.trapeze.com/

> 

> 

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