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Subject: Re: FLASH: Opinions on Flash
From: Meshach Weber
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 01:31:07 +0100

you should show this person the ads for Flash artists that START at $50 an
hour (Ive seen up to $90). Companies don't pay idots $50 an hour to work on
corporations net branding and presence with an application that "sucks".
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Tele Edit
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Phone: +1-612-333-5480
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> From: bhallatfigleaf [dot] com (Branden Hall)
> Reply-To: flasheratchinwag [dot] com
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:13:43 -0400
> To: <flasheratchinwag [dot] com>
> Subject: RE: FLASH: Opinions on Flash
>
> I work on Flash for only Fortune 1000 companies... I think that says
> enough.
> The person you talked to doesn't fully know or understand what Flash is and
> how it works, this is obvious.
>
> -= Branden J. Hall
> -= Senior Interactive Developer/Instructor
> -= Fig Leaf Software - "We've got you covered!"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owneratchinwag [dot] com [owneratchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:owneratchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf Of
> OMjolnirataol [dot] com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:55 AM
> To: flasheratchinwag [dot] com
> Subject: FLASH: Opinions on Flash
>
>
> Hello! I'm pretty new to Flash and I've been lurking here, reading and
> trying to make sense of all the posts! :-) Anyway, a friend of mine found
> out I was learning Flash and had this to say (which ticked me off):
>
> "First off I have to tell you....while Flash may be cool all the
> webmaster people I know hate it. It is major-league frowned on. Why? #1
> You download Flash and you get spammed to death!! #2-takes too long on a
> 56K modem. MOST PEOPLE still have 56K.
>
> My advice? STAY AWAY FROM FLASH unless you make it an OPTION. Make it a
> place where those with T1s and DSLs can go if they so choose but DO NOT
> make it part of your site without the option.
>
> TRUST ME!!! I get paid to do trendspotting and demography work. I KNOW
> THIS SHIT!!
>
> FLASH is BAD!!!
>
> I have 3 programs that cost less then Flash that make gorgeous animation
> and loads quicker then Flash and requires NO downloading....
>
> Read the info. You are bigtime missing out. FLASH is for idiots, Painter
> is for artists. Trust me, Rogue I TEACH THIS I know. Flash is like the
> Walmart of animation. IT SUCKS.
>
> Painter is for true artists like you.
>
> 3-D Studio Max (my fave program) is Industrial Light and Magic state of
> the art stuff and requires that no one download any program.
>
> Can you tell I am so anti FLASH???
>
> There is a program called U-LEAD Cool 3-D that costs $90 and does not
> require that people who view your site download a program. It creates
> GORGEOUS animation. Flash looks great but when I go to their site to
> download the viewer I get spammed.
>
> Trust me, Rogue, bigtime artists and web people FROWN ON THIS!!! They
> prefer you do your art with the REAL deal.....PHOTOSHOP, PAINTER !!"
>
> So, my question to all you people who work with this program, what are your
> comments regarding this letter? Is any of it true? I can understand the
> comment about having an alternate "unenhanced" site but I was under the
> impression, Flash was the way EVERYONE was headed?
>
> Oh, and by the way, I am a traditional artist which is what she was
> referring
> to when she calls me an artist...
>
> Thanks for your opinion.
>
> Rogue
> Need an artist?
> <A HREF="http://RogueCreations.tripod.com/index.html">Rogue Creations</A>
> (not a Flash site yet! <g>)
> CD cover art, portraits and more!
> http://RogueCreations.tripod.com
>
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