RE: FLASH: ADMIN: a suggestion

[Damien Morton]

Actually, the whole line of reasoning about size is suspect. Forgive me if I

led the conversation down that road. And yes, I was computing in the days

when a 1MB hard disk was something only a business could afford.


It was repetion of the same sponsorship message within emails that got to

me. I had received several emails that had the message repeated several

times within them. Flashforward is over, lets just keep the sponsorship

messages short and to the point, and if possible, could there be a filter so

that the message appears only once in an email.





> -----Original Message-----

>

From: ownerchinwag [dot] com [ownerchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:ownerchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf Of Brack,

> Jeremy

> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 7:59 PM

>

To: 'flasherchinwag [dot] com'

> Subject: RE: FLASH: ADMIN: a suggestion

>

>

> actually, your entire e-mail that you sent was under 1k...  so

> your figures

> are exaggerated by about 2000% or more.........

>

> 1 character, or alpha-numeric symbol is not 1K.

> 1 character = 8 bits...

> 1000 characters = 1,000 x 8 bits = 8,000 bits

> 8 bits = 1 byte

> so 8,000 bits = 1,000 bytes = 1k (also known as 1Kb)

>

> these e-mails have about 60 characters per line..

> 60 characters = 480 bits = 60 bytes

> and each e-mail has roughly 30 lines of actual text...

> 60 bytes x 20 lines = 1,200 bytes

> 1,200 bytes = 1.2K = 1.2Kb

> 1.2Kb = 1 e-mail...

> 74 e-mails per day = 88.8Kb

> most websites you visit contain upwards of 200Kb

> Now lets assume you keep 1 month of e-mails...

> thats 74 e-mails (88.8Kb) x 30 days = 2.664MB

> 2.664MB = less than 2 Floppy disks per month....

>

> now back in the 1980's it was around $10 per floppy disk, and the

> disks were

> 5 1/4 inch (huge)..

>

> but now, a 40 GIG hard drive is around $150

> 40 Gigabytes = 40,000MB = 15,000 months of e-mail = 450,000 days of

> e-mail...

> thats 1,250 years of e-mail...

>

> I think that your point would have made a lot more sense back in the late

> 1980's when people were connecting to bulletin boards on 1,200

> baud modems..

> and hard drives were non-existant.. you booted from a floppy disk..the

> entire operating system fit in 400kb.. and data storage prices were

> extremely expensive..

>

> I am not bashing you, I am just making it clear that text based e-mail is

> extremely small in size and chopping off 3 lines on everyone's e-mail will

> not save the world anything.

>

> The only thing you get if you chop off the 3 lines at the bottom

> is a pretty

> looking e-mail with no ads on it. Thats it.

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

From: mortondennisinter [dot] com [mortondennisinter [dot] com (mailto:mortondennisinter [dot] com)]

> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 5:35 PM

>

To: flasherchinwag [dot] com

> Subject: RE: FLASH: ADMIN: a suggestion

>

>

> Actually, I carefully trimmed mine to illustrate my point. The server

> generously added another copy to further illustrate my point.

>

> I appreciate the work admin does, and some form of compensation

> is in order.

> Whether that needs to be of the form of adding a fairly large promotion to

> each and every email is my question. As he mentions in a later email, each

> character anyone sends adds 2K to his - and everyones - download. I count

> around 700 bytes in the sponsorship message. I received 74 emails (and 74

> sponsorship messages) over the last 24 hours. Lessee here - 74

> emails * 700

> bytes * 2000 subscribers = 100+ megabytes.

>

> Could there be a less wasteful and less intrusive way to do this?

>

> > -----Original Message-----

>

> From: ownerchinwag [dot] com [ownerchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:ownerchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf Of JGL

> > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 12:25 PM

>

> To: flasherchinwag [dot] com

> > Subject: RE: FLASH: ADMIN: a suggestion

> >

> >

> > The responsibility relies upon the email sender (it's in the

> > FAQ). . . there

> > is no such filter.

> >

> > I noticed that you didn't trim yours . . .

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > Could Admin please install some kind of filter so that the 13 line

> > promotional peice at the bottom of each email is filtered so that

> > it appears

> > only once in each post. People seem to be lazy and not edit the material

> > out. Either that, or eliminate the damned this altogether. A promotional

> > email once in a while should be sufficient, or even a short

> > 2-line promo on

> > each email with a link for those interested.

> >

> > Generously serving up 13 line self-promitions with every email is

> > beginning

> > to get on my nerves.

>

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