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Subject: FLASH: New Flashers/freelancers, please read!
From: David Gary
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:44:44 +0100



David Gary wrote:

> >
> > > At 10:48 AM 5/12/99 +0200, you wrote:
> > > >Hello,
> > > >
> > > >I have an unusual question for you, no wait, it's more like an offer. I
> > > have been approached by a company with the question of making their first
> > > website. They want Flash, and since I know the guy running the company, he
> > > asked me. But I am nowhere near talented enough to make a Flash site of
> > > this size. So, if anyone talented out there wants to get their hands on a
> > > US$ 150 000/year account, let me know.
> > > >
> > > >Here's the deal: The company is a model agency. They want Flash
> > > presentations of their models. You will be given a set of pictures and
> > > music to work with. Do whatever you want, but make something cool
> > > out of it.
> > > >
>
> And the work above is to be commissioned?
> Please explain. "Do whatever we want"? Will our prior flash portfolios not do?
> Why do we have to custom create a piece using this company's images for no
> compensation? If its only for "Exposure", what is this company's credentials?
>
> > > >So this will be some sort of a competition. The company is not interested
> > > in your CV or portfolio, only what you can achive from a given set of
> > > rules. The person or persons who produce the best "test presentation" will
> > > be given the account.
>
> Competition? When I call on a AC repair guy I dont call 2 to show up, to
> compete, to see who can do the better
> job and then pay that individual.
>
> Whos the company?
>
> What is your posistion? Are you a broker?
>
> > > >
> > > >If anyone is interested, please let me know off-list. I will compile more
> > > info and send it at the end of next week to anyone who signs up
> > > for the info.
> > > >
> > > >Glenn Folkvord
> > > >Krepro AS
> > > >Direct dial: (+47) 63 92 21 74
> > > >Telefax: (+47) 63 95 20 50
> > > >E-mail: glenn [dot] folkvordatkrepro [dot] no
>
> I must warn new flash developers or anyone new to freelancing creative work from
> these type of posts. I am not saying this
> particular post is bogus or claiming that this company is trying to scam flash
> work. However this is not
> the norm for commissioning any creative freelance work. This is an example of
> "throw a dog a bone"
> techniques used by companies trying to seek the best work possible for their
> benefit and NOT this community's. This is exploitation at its finest.
> Think about it. You create a custom piece for a company without any compensation
> whatsoever? Forget "exposure"
> Companies using this technique (whether they know it or not) exploit
> artists/creatives. They hold "contests" saying, "Whoever
> can create the best looking logo for us wins!". Hundreds of artists work for
> absolutely no compensation, but rather
> for some schmuck sifting through tons of exploited work to possibly pick out
> some "so called" lucky artist to get paid. If the artist asks to much, the
> company goes to the next best thing. "State of the art" starving digital
> artists? Are we really going to
> take a bus drivers salary for spending 80 hours a week making sure we keep with
> the latest technical advances?
> Give me a break. These type of so called "promotions" will kill this new
> industry before it even gets started.
>
> Forget "exposure". If you can create professional flash pieces, you can get
> "exposure". Whats the net for? Promote YOURSELF. Create pieces that YOU want to
> specialize in for serious clients to base a decision on. Create great
> client relationships by guaranteeing your work. This post is a prime example of
> "throw a dog a bone". Educate these "clients". Protect yourself by educating
> yourself.
> Goto http://www.gag.org. This is the graphics artist guild. It will give you
> information on how to watch out for yourself, how to educate confused clients
> and what the professionals around you agree upon as far as ethics.
>
> I do not work for TGAG. I do support them along with millions of other
> professionals. Take a look for yourself .
> I think you will agree.
>
> As hard as John C is on MIME types, count me in for this type of exploitation.
>
> -DG-
>
> _______________________
>
> -David Gary-
> Interactive Producer/Designer
> http://www.davidgarystudios.com
> dgarystudiosatmpinet [dot] net (mailto:dgarystudiosatmpinet [dot] net)
>


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