RE: FLASH: Oval City !

[Sooy, Matt]

We've all heard that everything we say or do has been said or done before.

In fact, when it comes to pushing originality I believe that good design

should always precede originality, but a good design takes into account

(especially in something like a website) an identity.  If the design fails

to serve the identity, then however well designed the information is, its

interest isn't served.


Different people have different ideas on what software like Flash has to

offer.  I personally believe that if you use it as a standalone tool, you're

selling it short. Spinning ovals are indicative of the limitations of Flash

(and not vector graphics.)  I have no idea what other constraints he was

working under, but these ovals earmark Flash the same way overused gradients

earmark illustrator, and poorly used drop shadows and semi-transparent text

earmarks photoshop.  


I'm sure this site wasn't targeting design professionals, so he should take

my criticism as criticism.  Just my own unsolicited, caustic design opinion.



Matt Sooy



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> Sent:	Wednesday, September 23, 1998 5:02 PM

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To: flashershocker [dot] com

> Subject:	Re: FLASH: Oval City !

> 

> What I personally Would like to know is, what Mr.Sooy? <Is that his name?>

> Web

> site looks like, I wonder if its sooo "Original"

> and if it is great if its not then that's fine, cause that's how the world

> works, you take someone else's idea and enhance that, you won't find

> another

> Web site like Deep Blue, you might find one that's similar but not the

> exact

> same. Just think of how many great web site's used other peoples ideas?,

> hell

> just think of every new movie out, usually the script writer had some

> influence

> from an older movie.

> 

> Or Maybe He never knew there was Alot of Oval's on the net, but like the

> man

> said he likes ovals! so What just because other people have them you can't

> use

> them? It seems that your the only one against this, and if you don't like

> it

> well then don't go to it. But like he said this list is suppose to be

> helpful,

> and from that email you wrote there is not one word of helpfulness that I

> can

> see, except telling us that your against ovals? and do we care what you

> like or

> dislike? no, he asked for help....Think before you write.

> 

> 

> ~ R ~

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> 

>

Gavin_Hollandjba [dot] co [dot] uk wrote:

> 

> > Listen Mate,

> >            I posted my mail to the Flash list for a bit of technical,

> > constructive advice and not for someone to go slagging my work off. I

> was

> > under the impression that the list was a place where people could

> exchange

> > ideas and help each other with various Flash issues, obviously I was

> wrong.

> > I know my site is not groundbreaking and is probably not the most

> original

> > piece of flash on the NET but does this have to stop me posting to the

> > list, sorry but I was unaware that to use this list you already had to

> be

> > some kind of Flash Guru. Sorry for causing such offense Mr Sooy, but

> feel

> > free to close your browser and please take your snotty attitude with

> you.

> > Besides, I LOVE OVALS !!!!!!!!

> > Cheers !

> > For all lovers of Ovals go to :

> > http://www.btinternet.com/~gavin.holland/deepblue/

> >

> > Subject: RE: FLASH: New Site !

> > I hate to be the only one who thinks this,

> > but if i see another spinning oval I'm going to close my browser.  Don't

> > get

> > me wrong, I love my copy of FLASH, but it seems like 3/4 of the FLASH

> > content on the web is virtually indistinguishable from any other.

> >

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