Re: FLASH: No more demo FLAs

[Pascal Brun]

Branden


for whatever its worth..I do completely agree with you. I just love to analyze

fla's but as a designer I have to agree with you that conceptional work

shouldn't

be used and declared as one's own idea

people doing this will stop people like you from giving useful help to other

I hope you'll keep your helping up anyway :-)

greetings

    pascal


Branden Hall wrote:


> Good question... and one that is really quite fuzzy in nature...

> So here's an equally fuzzy, but hopfully satisfying answer...

>

> Concepts are one thing... Like adding numbers... or faking a draggable

> mask...  or programatic movement... or even basic collision detection. This

> stuff has been well documented in tutorials and wads of files.  Thats

> perfectly fine stuff! Use as needed! The reason behind this is because these

> concepts are needed to build a whole, they do not stand on their own.  You

> *have* to use them in some context that requires more than just swapping in

> graphics.

>

> What is not cool to just take and run with are whole collections of ideas,

> like my swing, or my reactive matrix, throw new graphics on them, and call

> them your own.  If you take these things, learn from them, and take that

> code to make something else, thats great! And its totally cool with me!  The

> code is meant for educational purposes, to learn how to code in flash, and

> you can use it build from...  I love to see it!

>

> The problem that I had with todays culprits were that they simply took my

> code

> slapped some cheesy graphics on top and called it theirs...  nothing was

> really changed...

>

> I guess the best analogy would be weather you use code as a tool, or as a

> final product...  if you use a saw to build a house, you built the house,

> its yours!  But if you just repaint the saw and call it your idea, thats

> wrong....

>

> I hope that cleared things up a bit...

>

> -= Branden J. Hall

> -= Multimedia Developer/Instructor

> -= Fig Leaf Software

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

From: Cheri Harder <chericahome [dot] com>

>

To: <flasherchinwag [dot] com>

> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 8:32 PM

> Subject: Re: FLASH: No more demo FLAs

>

> Can you help us, here, Branden.  Some of us have been discussing this and

> are having a really hard time distinguishing the fine line between OK and

> NOT OK when it comes to programming.  I've always had trouble with the grey

> area here.  I am not saying that whoever is using your code was in any way

> in a gray area I am just asking for further clarification if I may...along

> these lines:

>

> and I'm trying to use extremes just to make myself and my confusion

> understood

>

> We all know 2 + 2 = 4

> Most of us know how to set up the if..then...construct in Flash

> Therefore, most of us know how to set up the

> set variable "n" = (2 + 2)

> if n = 4 then

>     go to and play (whatever)

> end if

>

> Now, a new person comes along and I show them the above and they use it in

> their code.

>

> 1)  Obviously it's not MY code to make public or not, because "everybody

> already knows this"

>

> 2)  When someone wants to accomplish the above, this would likely be the

> only way to do so

>

> The point I'm trying to get at here, is WHERE does this "obviously it's ok"

> change to "obviously it's NOT ok"   Does the next guy have to say "1 + 3 =

> 4" ??  This is an honest question and I'm NOT trolling, here.  :-)  I really

> don't know the answer.

>

> Like, the only way to "drag" a mask layer is to fake doing so, by

> tell-targetting the underlying layer to move in the opposite direction of

> the drag.  Now, I learned that on this list and have intention of using it

> in a paying contract.  I didn't "copy any code" as it were, I just read the

> eMail with the explanation, but looking at my result, how would anyone know

> that I didn't copy?  This is the only way to accomplish the end result, and

> it might very well look like I copied someone's code, you know?  Oh, I am

> not explaining this very well.  LOL.

>

> I guess, where does "common programming functional knowledge" stop and

> "stealing someone's code" begin?  Anyone?  I certainly don't mind giving

> credit where credit is due, and I certainly don't want to use anything that

> would even appear to be unethical pilfering, but I really don't know where

> this line is....

>

> And I, for one, sure as H don't want to lose the actual tangible fla's from

> Branden, 'cuz that is the absolute best way to learn, by tearing apart those

> files.

>

> ~~~~Cheri Harder~~~~~

>

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>

> > This is not cool.  I have written numerous

> > demos FLAs and released them to the flash community for people to learn

> > from

> ..........

> > portraying my code as their

> > own...  no mention of my name or anything at all.  They are trying to show

> > off thier talent and creativity, while all they are really doing is

> showing

> > their ability to shove new graphics onto my code, nothing else has

> changed.

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