Re: FLASH: No more demo FLAs

[Branden Hall]

Hey folks... no need to get into a huff about all this..

Just on a historical note though...

The first use of FOO and Bar in the realm of comp sci was the orginal

specification of the language C.  It does spawn from the unofficial miliary

acronym FUBAR, though I am not sure if any of the writers of C were in the

military. If I can find the book around here I'll post the title and authors

since it really is a classic and *damn* good read if you want to get into

programming!


Oh, and today I have been working on the next issue of Branden's Brain,

which will be out early next week! And just as many of you have asked for,

its an actual exercise! You are using the concepts you learned last week to

build the first part of an online quiz game.


I hope you all enjoy! And in the future, just ignore flamebait like that...

it just eats up bandwidth and gets people pissed off.  Though I do

appriciate so many of you coming to my defense (that was downright

flattering!) the best way to deal with such incitful morons is to ignore

them.

Thanks again!


-= Branden J. Hall

-= Multimedia Developer/Instructor

-= Fig Leaf Software





----- Original Message -----

From: Eric Dunham <

brokencorridor [dot] net

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To: <

flasherchinwag [dot] com

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Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 6:10 PM

Subject: RE: FLASH: No more demo FLAs



Well, Mr. High & Mighty,


How dare you try and selfishly claim something that cannot be yours. I have

never seen anything as outrageous as the hateful trash that you put forth to

the list today. In all my experiences from C, C++, JavaScript, Perl, Cobol,

Pascal, QBasic, Visual Basic, HTML, Lingo and Flash (and I know I probably

forgot some), I have never seen those two words NOT used. In almost every

example I have ever seen or read or heard, instructors, mentors and peers

have consistently used the "foo bar" example. Why? I don't know, nor do I

care and neither should you. And if you want to consider Branden's usage of

two words that have been used time and time and time and time again, by

almost every <fill-in-the-name> computer-oriented "community" that I have

ever seen, then maybe you should step back, look around at the world outside

of your self-made shell of close-mindedness and shut the f**k up. If that's

the way you want to be, then you might as well stop using every bit of

computer lingo and jargon that you have ever heard, because, you know,

someone came up with it before you did, and you're just ripping them off.


Furthermore, I cannot believe that you would personally attack one of the

most helpful and respected (IMO) members of this list based on the insanely

preposterous notion that your "Lisp community" has exclusive rights to use

those two "special" words. Well, I would suggest that you go back to them

and cry and bitch and moan about what Branden wrote, because I'll be willing

to bet you that they are the only ones who might give a damn about your

worthless complaint, which served no purpose other than to start another

flame thread on this list. I know that this post is nothing more than a

flame, and I do apologize for what some might see as wasted bandwidth, but,

honestly, you disgust me with your a) lack of compassion and b) failure to

realize that "foo" and "bar" are nothing more than words consisting of three

letters out of the English language, that you have no patent or monopoly

over. And if I'm not mistaken, the word "bar" was around long, long before

Lisp was, and the word "foo"... well, I'm pretty sure that someone else used

it before you did. So get off your cross, I'm sure someone else needs the

wood. (Oh, and if you want to say that the previous line of text was

plagiarism (because I'm sure you've heard it somewhere before), go ahead. I

won't mind, I'll just ignore you...oh wait I have a filter to do that...)


Have a nice day,

Eric Dunham


<Original Message>

As a former member of the Lisp community, I'm shocked by a case of

flagrant plagiarism in the first issue of the epistle entitled

"Branden's Brain". At one point, the author expresses himself as

follows:


   Let's say you have some code in the movie clip instance named FOO

   and you want to talk to the movie clip instance named BAR.


When I read this prose, my heart stopped beating for a few

milliseconds. This rude newbie guy named Branden is stealing

outrageously our good old "foo bar" LispTalk, and applying it

stupidly to the geekless Flash ActionScript world, and he's not even

acknowledging his affinities. Strike him down! What an ugly intruder!

I'm glad I've captured an image of his tiny brain, so that I can zap

him out of existence if ever he dares to raise his mindless

complaints, once again, about being ripped off....


I would have been happy if Branden had said "fool" instead of "foo",

and "bad" instead of "bar". That would have put him into perspective,

without offending our old-time Lispers.


Another minor but relevant detail. It's a fact that our innocent

Branden, who may know how to write code (?), doesn't know how to

write good English prose.


He might be quiet for a while...

</Original Message>



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