Re: FLASH: No more demo FLAs

[Mark McFadden]

I , for one, am definitelt ignoring that last idiotic

statement...fool/bad?


Branden Hall wrote:

> 

> Hey folks... no need to get into a huff about all this..

> Just on a historical note though...

> The first use of FOO and Bar in the realm of comp sci was the orginal

> specification of the language C.  It does spawn from the unofficial miliary

> acronym FUBAR, though I am not sure if any of the writers of C were in the

> military. If I can find the book around here I'll post the title and authors

> since it really is a classic and *damn* good read if you want to get into

> programming!

> 

> Oh, and today I have been working on the next issue of Branden's Brain,

> which will be out early next week! And just as many of you have asked for,

> its an actual exercise! You are using the concepts you learned last week to

> build the first part of an online quiz game.

> 

> I hope you all enjoy! And in the future, just ignore flamebait like that...

> it just eats up bandwidth and gets people pissed off.  Though I do

> appriciate so many of you coming to my defense (that was downright

> flattering!) the best way to deal with such incitful morons is to ignore

> them.

> Thanks again!

> 

> -= Branden J. Hall

> -= Multimedia Developer/Instructor

> -= Fig Leaf Software

> 

> ----- Original Message -----

>

From: Eric Dunham <brokencorridor [dot] net>

>

To: <flasherchinwag [dot] com>

> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 6:10 PM

> Subject: RE: FLASH: No more demo FLAs

> 

> Well, Mr. High & Mighty,

> 

> How dare you try and selfishly claim something that cannot be yours. I have

> never seen anything as outrageous as the hateful trash that you put forth to

> the list today. In all my experiences from C, C++, JavaScript, Perl, Cobol,

> Pascal, QBasic, Visual Basic, HTML, Lingo and Flash (and I know I probably

> forgot some), I have never seen those two words NOT used. In almost every

> example I have ever seen or read or heard, instructors, mentors and peers

> have consistently used the "foo bar" example. Why? I don't know, nor do I

> care and neither should you. And if you want to consider Branden's usage of

> two words that have been used time and time and time and time again, by

> almost every <fill-in-the-name> computer-oriented "community" that I have

> ever seen, then maybe you should step back, look around at the world outside

> of your self-made shell of close-mindedness and shut the f**k up. If that's

> the way you want to be, then you might as well stop using every bit of

> computer lingo and jargon that you have ever heard, because, you know,

> someone came up with it before you did, and you're just ripping them off.

> 

> Furthermore, I cannot believe that you would personally attack one of the

> most helpful and respected (IMO) members of this list based on the insanely

> preposterous notion that your "Lisp community" has exclusive rights to use

> those two "special" words. Well, I would suggest that you go back to them

> and cry and bitch and moan about what Branden wrote, because I'll be willing

> to bet you that they are the only ones who might give a damn about your

> worthless complaint, which served no purpose other than to start another

> flame thread on this list. I know that this post is nothing more than a

> flame, and I do apologize for what some might see as wasted bandwidth, but,

> honestly, you disgust me with your a) lack of compassion and b) failure to

> realize that "foo" and "bar" are nothing more than words consisting of three

> letters out of the English language, that you have no patent or monopoly

> over. And if I'm not mistaken, the word "bar" was around long, long before

> Lisp was, and the word "foo"... well, I'm pretty sure that someone else used

> it before you did. So get off your cross, I'm sure someone else needs the

> wood. (Oh, and if you want to say that the previous line of text was

> plagiarism (because I'm sure you've heard it somewhere before), go ahead. I

> won't mind, I'll just ignore you...oh wait I have a filter to do that...)

> 

> Have a nice day,

> Eric Dunham

> 

> <Original Message>

> As a former member of the Lisp community, I'm shocked by a case of

> flagrant plagiarism in the first issue of the epistle entitled

> "Branden's Brain". At one point, the author expresses himself as

> follows:

> 

>    Let's say you have some code in the movie clip instance named FOO

>    and you want to talk to the movie clip instance named BAR.

> 

> When I read this prose, my heart stopped beating for a few

> milliseconds. This rude newbie guy named Branden is stealing

> outrageously our good old "foo bar" LispTalk, and applying it

> stupidly to the geekless Flash ActionScript world, and he's not even

> acknowledging his affinities. Strike him down! What an ugly intruder!

> I'm glad I've captured an image of his tiny brain, so that I can zap

> him out of existence if ever he dares to raise his mindless

> complaints, once again, about being ripped off....

> 

> I would have been happy if Branden had said "fool" instead of "foo",

> and "bad" instead of "bar". That would have put him into perspective,

> without offending our old-time Lispers.

> 

> Another minor but relevant detail. It's a fact that our innocent

> Branden, who may know how to write code (?), doesn't know how to

> write good English prose.

> 

> He might be quiet for a while...

> </Original Message>

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